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Old 02-11-2019, 10:41 AM   #411
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I got everything buttoned up this weekend, Bled brakes got car back on ground.

No test drive, we had freezing rain and an ice rink Sunday. So looks like ill have to wait till Wednesday this week looks to be in 50s and dry.


I been fighting my tailgate glass and mechanism for along time, I had just opted to not use the gate for last year and half. So I decided to really dig in and see if could figure it out. The glass seemed to be to short, and wouldn't go all way into channel of car. So I've just had foam crammed into it to keep exhaust fumes at bay.

I removed all felts off gate edge and glass would go up further, but still not all way to create a decent seal. from what I can see, the glass would almost damn near have to come out of gate to get a seal at top. Which I don't think is gonna happen. I'm waiting on a buddy with a 64 wagon to send me pics of his car, so I have a reasonable expectations. I believe I will still end up running foam to get seal I want. I wish Hotwire lived closer to pick his brain about helping me make factory setup work. The car supposed to have option to insert key into tailgate and lift/lower glass, and all that stuff has been bypassed and has simple toggle wired under dash and that's it. I also noticed it has I assume a safety switch on jamb of gate so as not to be able to lift glass with gate is open. But I think its over my head to tackle.

Ordered new parts to rebuild the tracks, so I took old ones out and scrapped all old junk out of track, sanded and repainted them.



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Old 02-12-2019, 06:15 AM   #412
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Lol, wish all yall lived closer too, we'd get some sh!t done!

I'll see if I have any diagrams for the rear window, might be able to guide you through it remotely.

Do you have the assembly or service manual for your car? They never really helped me much but every once in a while there's a little information that's helpful in them. If I get time tonight I'll see if there's anything on the rear window.

To start, grab your meter and check continuity of the switches. Make sure the tailgate safety switch is adjusted so that it's working when the tailgate is shut.

Rails look good. I'm not looking forward into getting into my doors when I finally get felts and channels for them. I'm sure there's still an easter egg or two left in that thing.
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Old 02-12-2019, 07:35 AM   #413
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Lol, wish all yall lived closer too, we'd get some sh!t done!

I'll see if I have any diagrams for the rear window, might be able to guide you through it remotely.

Do you have the assembly or service manual for your car? They never really helped me much but every once in a while there's a little information that's helpful in them. If I get time tonight I'll see if there's anything on the rear window.

To start, grab your meter and check continuity of the switches. Make sure the tailgate safety switch is adjusted so that it's working when the tailgate is shut.

Rails look good. I'm not looking forward into getting into my doors when I finally get felts and channels for them. I'm sure there's still an easter egg or two left in that thing.
I actually have quite a bit of stuff on car, ill have to look to see if there is any diagrams for gate in it.

What I'm curious is if there was ever a switch for window located up front on dash somewhere. Or if it was meant to only be operated via the key in gate
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Old 02-14-2019, 08:51 AM   #414
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I can't remember the last time I was extremely disappointed in cost for some parts in along time.

Dug around a lot and only found 1 guys making replacement parts for tailgate tracks etc. Got them today, $180 in parts. I got hosed for sure. Looks like a solid $30 worth to me. Basically just top rubber caps for each rail and new fuss for track. Ouch...


Oh well, on a better note. I dug around interwebs and found a replacement rear Falken tire for $112 shipped from Tires-easy.com. I couldn't find anything less than $165, and I think I paid $180 for last tire I messed up driving it on a flat last summer from a local tire guy that "hooked me up"

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Old 02-15-2019, 06:44 AM   #415
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It sucks you had to pay for the parts but glad someone is making them. You got to think about supply and demand. How much time / investment to create the metal track, rubber mold, etc. I got *****y about my made in taiwan trim but some wiser people talked me off the ledge about it.
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:39 AM   #416
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Was 65* yesterday, so I got car out and put a few miles on it while I had a little daylight left after work. So far so go on rearend, no funny noises or vibrations. Brakes seem to work. I probably need to do some lock up testing and adjust the prop valve to make sure its ideal.

Spent some time rebuilding the tracks last night, was more of a pain than I expected. But I got it knocked out and I think turned out nice. Had to get creative to get the rivet gun into track...obviously it spread track out, so had to bend them back straight after I got it riveted.

Also received some new speakers in mail, snagged 2 pairs of these kicker 6.5 speakers to replace the infinity 4x6 plates that have been hacked into all doors. I have a plan hopefully to vastly improve the look after these are installed.

Had a buddy design in solidworks a replacement motor transmission gear for gate glass. Mine is still tack welded together and functional, but I wanted an option incase my did fail. 3D printing is pretty neat. I think ill R&D it and see if it holds up, if not I have the file to have it CNC in aluminum or stainless.


Hopefully I can get gate reassembled this weekend and fingers crossed my glass goes up and down without "help"


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Old 02-17-2019, 06:09 PM   #417
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Old 02-17-2019, 06:28 PM   #418
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I snagged 2 pairs of Kicker 6.5 speakers on sale last week to replace the Infinity plates in all the doors. More for visual improvement than sound. I intend to paint the grilles body color. So far only have 1 door completely finished, lots of fab work, and adding sound deadener. Front doors had some, but rears don't have any. Over summer a buddy of mine gave me like 12 cases of butyl sound deadener but they a like 4x4 squares. But im gonna make use of it. Every door the way PO routed wire interfered with door seals. So that's been fun re-doing that. I found a decent solution for rear doors I can live with. Fronts I think I need to go to local hot rod shop and find something specific.

Still need to get 2 driver doors done.

On another note, I spent an hour or 2 messing with my tailgate, I think I jerked regulator out 5 times to get gears set so glass was level. And first attempt at rolling glass up, my 3D printed gear sheared the stud. So that was a fail. I put back in my stocker. Glass will not go all way up without some "help" at last inch or so. My dad is an electric motor guy, I'm trying to see if that motor can be beefed up to be stronger/meaner at the voltage it runs at. It I could get 14+ volts to it, I'm betting it would work great. Also talked about a gear reduction of some sort, but as it is we can't change the gear diameter because it fits in a housing and runs on a worm gear. Glass is heavy, and new felts in track I think made it worse as far as friction. Going to try not to loose focus on this and come up with a solution.





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Teeth need to be corrected as well, need to be a bit wider. Might have it cut in aluminum once teeth width is corrected.
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Old 02-18-2019, 08:09 PM   #419
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Doing good work Greg.

How does the motor hook up? I looked around and didn't really find anything. From what I can tell there's 3 wires going to the window motor? 1 power, 1 up, 1 down? That means the motor gets ground through the tailgate. I'd highly recommend running a ground from the motor body to corner of tailgate,, then from corner of tailgate to body.. That'd probably fix the problem, it's losing connection through the hinges.

There's something you can get to lube the window channels, in a pinch I've used armor all soaked rag to wipe down the felts with good results.

Can you remove the window and exercise the motor joints? Might be binding or need a little cleaning/oil in a joint.
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:31 AM   #420
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Doing good work Greg.

How does the motor hook up? I looked around and didn't really find anything. From what I can tell there's 3 wires going to the window motor? 1 power, 1 up, 1 down? That means the motor gets ground through the tailgate. I'd highly recommend running a ground from the motor body to corner of tailgate,, then from corner of tailgate to body.. That'd probably fix the problem, it's losing connection through the hinges.

There's something you can get to lube the window channels, in a pinch I've used armor all soaked rag to wipe down the felts with good results.

Can you remove the window and exercise the motor joints? Might be binding or need a little cleaning/oil in a joint.
Motor has 3 wires, 1 is a ground that is an eyelet to case of motor, not sure where it goes from there. Would be easy for me to add or change and make a new ground to verify its solid.

I have cleaned the regulator with brake clean to get all old stagnant grease and dirt out. White lithium on most, and some bearing grease on 2 tracks that are on rollers.

Armorall on felts sounds like a good idea, but from sliding the glass up and down in new tracks by hand it doesn't seem to be super stiff. Not sure I wanna lube up brand new felts yet lol

I just feel like motor isn't mean enough. My dad is an electric motor guy and he mentioned its probably loosing some voltage purely from the length of wire from front to back of car. If I can somehow make motor get as close to 14v as I can when its running I think it would work much better. So I'll look at ground this week and ohm check current wiring and see what I come up with.

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